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ROB17

ROB17

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Poita said:
Been told a couple of things this last week.

DJR/Penske are chasing a proven "winner" and the prime target was a Kiwi currently contracted until the end of 2015. Apparently they tried to buy him out but no go with the efforts that were put into getting him back in to V8 Supercars. Penske are prepared to lease the REC for a year rather than run it for someone who they had no interest in keeping.

Now if Pye can get a sponsor to commit for more than one year he may still be a chance of staying, he has had several offers to go to other teams but he can see the long term benefits of staying put. The fact he is contracted to Dane is also a hindrance to him.

Initially Penske/Cindric had no interest in the current drivers but are now believed to be prepared to give Pye a chance if he or DJR can secure a sponsor, it will be much better for him if it's long term. This may explain some of the earlier talk of them showing little interest in the #16 REC for 2015.
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Well they'd wanna hurry up and make a call as I'm sure Super Black would want to get their ducks in a row quick smart.

Surely there has got to be a greater long-term benefit in Penske running #16 next year also? It will be tough getting a 1-car effort next year to the point of challenging for wins in 2016? 2 cars has got to be a priority...
 
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Henry

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ROB17 said:
Well they'd wanna hurry up and make a call as I'm sure Super Black would want to get their ducks in a row quick smart.

Surely there has got to be a greater long-term benefit in Penske running #16 next year also? It will be tough getting a 1-car effort next year to the point of challenging for wins in 2016? 2 cars has got to be a priority...
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Depends. If they're just fielding some plonker with no technical nous, who's just there because he brought a budget, and they spend too much time repairing and straightening that car, instead of developing the #17, then it's nothing but a distraction that they could do without.

I'd say just give it to SuperBlack for 12 months, spend the time pinning down the driver they really want for 2016, and spend 2015 developing a single car into a very good package.

I can't see that Tekno would've been a more formidable team with two cars this year, and I can't see why DJRTP need two cars to be taken seriously. Many people have said time and again that running multiple cars requires exponentially greater effort.
 
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Poita

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Further news suggest the #16 REC will be leased to Super Black next year. Pye was not at the Test Day which is a bit strange as one would think he may have had some input into the setup to help Ambrose.

In further bad news for Pye, his crew were working with Ambrose for the Test Days and that will continue at Homebush. Pye will get what's left and a few yanks to help with the pit stops.

Seems any chance of him staying next year are getting slimmer, this appears to be more to do with Dane than Pye though. Dane wants to retain Pye as a possible replacement for one of his drivers in 2016.
 
ROB17

ROB17

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Henry said:
Depends. If they're just fielding some plonker with no technical nous, who's just there because he brought a budget, and they spend too much time repairing and straightening that car, instead of developing the #17, then it's nothing but a distraction that they could do without.

I'd say just give it to SuperBlack for 12 months, spend the time pinning down the driver they really want for 2016, and spend 2015 developing a single car into a very good package.

I can't see that Tekno would've been a more formidable team with two cars this year, and I can't see why DJRTP need two cars to be taken seriously. Many people have said time and again that running multiple cars requires exponentially greater effort.
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I don't consider Scotty a "plonker". It's not about being taken seriously...2 cars gives them more data and more opportunity to try different things, not to mention better economies of scale. Yes Tekno have been quick but they have been inconsistent too. If 1 car was preferred there would be no 2 car teams.
 
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Henry

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ROB17 said:
I don't consider Scotty a "plonker". It's not about being taken seriously...2 cars gives them more data and more opportunity to try different things, not to mention better economies of scale. Yes Tekno have been quick but they have been inconsistent too. If 1 car was preferred there would be no 2 car teams.
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I don't (quite) regard Pye as any old "plonker", but I don't regard him as The Next Big Thing either. While what you say in terms of data, economies of scale and preferred options is by-and-large true, Penske obviously have a firm idea of what they want to do.

Obviously they're making Marcos' acclimatisation a priority. If it was data they were chasing on Sunday (and assuming they think Pye's a valid source of it), he would've been there. Or else the directive is in place to protect their IP and any intelligence that Roland might be interested in, and protect it closely. Sounds like Stapylton's girding its loins for WAR.
 
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Poita

Administrator
Doesn't matter how much spin they put on it I can't see any positives in it, especially when every other single car team has always complained of being a single car entry. [sh]
 
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Gerry

New member
My mind boggles at how such a great announcement with Marcos joining can be tempered with such a crap one about only one car.
I just don't see any sense in it at all.
Do we know why Wilson walked?
Was it because of David being out of a drive?
 
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TS-50

New member
Wilson have to be spread thin, they are already naming right sponsors of a few cars across a few categories, and the deal was only for the rest of the year
Next year will probably be a transitional year for Penski to find their feet and make an offer for the whole business.
 
Racin Jason

Racin Jason

Active member
Disappointing that the combination of DJR, Penske and Ambrose couldn't attract enough interest to find the budget for a second car. Scott Pye could have stayed on and helped Marcos transition back into the series. I hope I am wrong but it looks like a strawberry on a turd.[sh]
 
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JFK30

New member
Interesting Penske running one car. For my money they need a number of years to bed this venture down. Its easy for the outsiders to pass judgement on what's going to happen, but take the lead from Tekno Racing. Car 17 will get faster. Yes, Scott can drive, but he is owned by RD. He will get a seat in a T8 car soon. I cant wait to see Car 17 engine performance come the start of the season.
 
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