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Racin Jason

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There has been some quite creative rule interpretation over the years, DJR are one of the best when it comes to this!

The first one that comes to mind is the "bracket" to stop the front splitter scraping on the road when the EF had 200mm lopped off its under tray! Turns out there was no specification for the size of the "bracket" and DJR used this loophole to full advantage, only to be brought unstuck by JB's masssive rollover at Phillip Island!
 

J.C.

New member
What about the ones that never made it to the track:
The first Lowe EB, built with solid mounted engine.
 

Racin Jason

Active member
I wonder what happened to that one JC. I know it was used as the display car for a number of years and was updated to EF panels the last time I saw it.

What about the compressor wheels in the turbo on the Sierra! Another classic!
 

J.C.

New member
Dont know about the EB......Some one must know.
Some more:
The heads in the XE at Bathurst 1983
Or the mysterious T car Mustang at Bathurst in 1996.
And what about water cooled brakes on the Sierra.....didnt that cause a mini storm.
 

Henry

New member
Heads were 1982, the 18 Mustang in 1985 was apparently a little liberal with exhaust spec's... at some stage they had a fairly cunning brake bias proportioning system which ensured that the unweighted corner didn't lock... and the stories of how the original XD may have suffered excessive acid dipping... the second one was certainly a light car too... if it were all true.

Still, the sorts of things that happened during Series Prod, and the early Gp.C years, were incredible.. but NASCAR must take the cake. I sotry I heard was in regard to one of the true legends of NASCAR, who presented his car for the scrutes, they removed the fuel tank to check volume and looked over the car and passed it. Said legend apparently then said "you'd better check it again" and fired it up and drove away, leaving the gas tank in the possession of the scrutes...
 

Nascar12

New member
This one isn't entirely DJR interpretations but they benefited from it.
(I might not be totally correct about this I'm just going off something I read.. )

When the XD was homligated, Murray Carter was the one that submitted the specs to CAMS for approval. In the 4litre and over class they weighed in an XD with a 250CID 6 cylinder engine, got an approval for the weight and through some loop hole were then able to race the car at the same weight with the mighty 351 up front.
 

Henry

New member
quote:Originally posted by nascar12

This one isn't entirely DJR interpretations but they benefited from it.
(I might not be totally correct about this I'm just going off something I read.. )

When the XD was homligated, Murray Carter was the one that submitted the specs to CAMS for approval. In the 4litre and over class they weighed in an XD with a 250CID 6 cylinder engine, got an approval for the weight and through some loop hole were then able to race the car at the same weight with the mighty 351 up front.
The word I heard, from a couple of people was that one of the XD shells (the first one perhaps) was acid-dipped to reduce weight.... and they removed enough that the turret buckled, requiring a bit of the ol' Phyllis Diller to get it looking original again. ...
 

TS-50

New member
HRT ; no way . . . surely everyone else moved thiers

Don't forget Larry's little venture into suspension mounting points
 

Henry

New member
quote:Originally posted by racin jason

There was also HRT's interpretation of the suspension mounting points in 1994.
Hahahahahaha, I remember that well... the only Ford guy in a camp full of Holden fans on the top of the Big Hill that year, and when the word spread that 05 was illegal, I had a field day, particularly in the face of the 100K up for Brock for win no 10....
 

Racin Jason

Active member
Pooor old Larry! That was a mere oversight! They forgot to update the rear suspension to the new "Blueprint" specs!

You have to worry when someone like Larry who prides himself on dotting the i's and crossing the t's makes an absolute clanger like that!

What about one of the all time greats... RUDI EGGENBERGER???
 

TS-50

New member
Under the guide of TWR holdens racing teams working as a combined unit dominated ; little wonder they've dragged him out of the financial wilderness . . .under TWR the holden top 6 pretty much wrote the rules.
 

Doug

Guest
JC: I recall also Mastertons Falcon at surfers with the Number Plate area of the bumper hinged so it would swing at full noise to allow better air to the radiator.
 

Racin Jason

Active member
That Masterton Falcon was quite an advanced vehicle in a lot of ways. They were also able to run wider front tyres. It had a full steel roll cage that was welded to the chassis providing extra torsional rigidity when everyone else was using a bolt in alloy cage. I believe DJ himself once said that if he was to build another one he would do it more like the Masterton car.
Steve Masterton got some good results in that car particularly at Amaroo Park and he was only an average steerer at best. Imagine what Dick or Marvin or Jim Richards could have done in that car?
 

TS-50

New member
P.B.'s first A9X was also given the acid treatment, to the point where one of the girls ( model or grid maybe ) said that when she leaned back against it it crumpled and there was a big todo about it at the time, with hurried repairs being done.
 

Bigcol

Active member
It started way before v8's were even thought of.

4 bolt mains in the Chevs in the early Munro's.
Illegal sumps in every Torana for about 5 years.
Roller rockers in Moff's Hardtops
Illegal heads on the MHDT Commies
The alledged use of traction control on Winfield Commies.
Skaife blitzes every one and then they ban rear wheel sensors and both cars come back to the field
HRT's lack of grip off the line with a control ECU
Even heard of a couple of guys racing Gemini's filling roll cages with NOS for a quick squirt for overtaking
 

Doug

Guest
Big Col - I believe the Gemini rumour to be true - one was found to have a small NOS tank in the door sill and the Scruts noticed it was causing condensation - thats the story anyways
 

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