The idea of a discussion is that each refutes or agrees with certain points from the others arguement and then puts forward an arguement of their own, Just so you know.
It's not to just make stuff up out of what is clearly written based on your own biased view.
Is the comp or is it not called the NRL ?
Is the comp or is it not run from NSW ?
your absurd arguement about "you lot" ( another generalisation ) refuted.
If i found out either of those things I'd be living in dreamland, it's obtuse to say the least to imagine that Johns who has said in his own words that he went on the field "smashed" only "popped a pill on a friday after a game,. . I think we'll leave that defence to the little girls who go clubbing and come home a bit late, it's just lame and no one believes it,. . .also refuted.
My arguement once again is, Johns is a drug cheat,. . .end of story.
he does not make the ranks of immortal in my view, nor should he have been inducted into the sporting hall of fame. again my view.
Again, he badmouths other players adnauseum every week on radio or TV, and he used that medium to promote himself for it at every opportunity, and his fortunate on field talent from yesteryear ( where his aleged greatness saw him loose consistantly in SoO ) doesn't make up for his cumulative lifetime of misdeeds.
also , I could easily accept him if there was some fairness in the appointing that saw players who have given to the game tenfold what Johns has had made the cut, but Greats were overlooked for a drug cheat.
And FYI in our house at the moment we have a Doctor, a scientist in Pathology, a clinical ICU nurse and another nurse, all of who say that even E's are performance enhancing, even if it's just a reduced ability to feel pain.,. . new arguement.
I believe in 3 or 4 years time, when it comes time to pick another immortal, Mal will get his Guernsey. He is almost undoubtedly the best of the rest, and i have been saying for months that both Mal AND Joey should have been picked this time around.... they've done it in the past and i cant see why they couldnt do it again [pick two names].
.. but if the judges were determined to pick one player, then Joey is the stand out. If you cant see that lads, then you're watching the game with maroon tinted glasses and there is simply no reason to continue the discussion.... because he was the best. end of.
He could do things with the footy that no other player before him could do. Every halfback in the game today bases his game around Andrew Johns. He was the best defensive half the games' seen, and by definition, your #7 or your #6 will always have more ability than a centre for example [Mal]..
Exactly how or why do you think Joey came to have this reputation as the best #7 to play the game? Is it just a fluke?
Why do you think it's almost always halves [and now fullbacks] that win the Dally M medal? No reason why the Immortals judging system shouldnt work out the same way.
No one is suggesting that Mal wasnt a good player and didnt deserve it... but he's no Andrew Johns.
... Johns took drugs, but by my way of thinking he is not a drug cheat... Lance Armstrong [easy example, i know] is a drug 'cheat'........ you've said it yourself... 'Johns went on the field smashed'.... it doesnt matter how many doctors you have sitting in your house, if you're smashed, it's not gonna help your footy... do you honestly disagree with that?
I know im gonna open myself up for criticism here but i dont know any of you so whatever....... but when i was younger, after i turned 18 and before i met my partner, i took a few E's... you could probably count them on one hand, but still... i have first hand experience.... ask your nurse mates if they actually know what it's like? or if theyre only making assumptions based on the drug addicts, weirdos, and no hopers that they no-doubt deal with on the hospital
There is no way it would improve your game..... Alcohol numbs your senses as well, so does that mean if you go on to a footy field drunk you're at an advantage because you wont feel a hit? of course not. That's just a dumb thing to say.....
For the record, when i said 'you lot' i meant you lot on here... not 'up there in QLD'..
and also, Joey won more games for NSW than he lost, and the last time he played was the last time NSW won [in 2005]..