The Election

[TS-50]

The announcement about the upcoming Federal election has been met with some interesting reactions, some claiming that having it around the time of the AFL grand finals is political suicide, and others claiming it has been called for so far away so that the PM won't have a similar thing done to her that she did to her own PM.

Personally, I think it's going to be a long 7 odd months and the spin is going to be a distraction from any real issue being addressed.

Is the perception that under Liberals we flourish and under Labor we perrish appearing to be true? Is it time for a change again?

here's to hoping they keep their election adds out of the motor racing coverage at least [tsk]

 

[Racin Jason]

She did it to stop Kevin 24/7 from mounting another leadership challenge.[tsk]

 

[TS-50]

Now it looks like she did it to stop them having a bi-election if Craig Thomson gets time in the big house

 

[Car61]

I don't think that's the case...

Other than us now knowing the date, nothing actually changes - until the GG disolves the Parliament, 6 weeks out!


(unlikely that Mr Thompson would even get to trial within 7 months, let alone have a verdict given & be sentenced)


Isn't it be better to avoid the cost of a by-election? so soon before a General Election?

 

[Bigcol]

Is the perception that under Liberals we flourish and under Labor we perrish appearing to be true? Is it time for a change again?

It is a perception and it was well fueled by the last government.

Howard came into power as treasurer in 1975 with no government debt and when he was finished inflation and interest rates were well and truly on the rise.
He also left a 9 billion dollar debt for Hawke. Which at the time compared to the countries income was massive.

Both Howard and Costello have said that their time in the lodge was made easy because of Paul Keatings reforms.
The Keating government towards the end when they were voted out was well on it's way to paying off the debt and interest rates were on the way down.

Howard inherited a massive debt that was already reducing before he came to power.
To clear this debt they sold the family farm and privatised anything they could..
New infrastructure also took a battering.
Housing affordabilty is now amongst the worst in the world and interest rates and inflation were on the rise.
They also introduced middle class welfare.
During Howards term there wasn't any major upheavel of the money markets and the world was going through boom times. Australia had a mining boom and a spending spree boom by it's people

The Liberal party were on clover from the start of their term till the end.
Just recently they were descibed as wasteful by the IMF

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...f-the-loose-purse-strings-20130110-2cj32.html

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/howard-rejects-imfs-big-spender-tag-20130111-2ck3z.html

while i do believe that the Howard government was at one stage good for Australia. Like all governments they end up ****ing it up.

The Liberals being better money managers is a myth and always has been.
Howard had the best conditions possible for his government.

We have a hard choice.
Gillard, Labor and more incompetence or
Abbott, the Liberals and no idea

Geez i wish there was a viable 3rd party to vote for and i'm not talking about those pathetic Greens

 

[TS-50]

Geez i wish there was a viable 3rd party to vote for and i'm not talking about those pathetic Greens

Trouble is , the pigs already at the public trough don't want to move aside to let another colour of pig at it,

as for the greens they're Labor anyway, prety much like Get up,

 

[Gerry]

She's already got all the Jewish folk offside!

 

[Antg]

One useless twit replaced by another, awesome

 

[Poita]

One useless TWAT replaced by another, awesome

Sorry mate just had to edited your error.

 

[TS-50]

All this proves is that the Union thugs like Paul Howes who had Rudd removed in the first place have now had him re instated the same way,. . . we are under the goverment of the unions not the electorate.

 

[Bigcol]

That's where you're wrong TS.

They got rid of Rudd because he wouldn't play along the union lines and installed a puppet that would. Gillard.

They have finally realised that they are on a hiding to nothing and are all about saving seats.
Who knows.
With Abbott at the helm they may even win it.

Rudd is also trying to do something that the Labor party drastictly need and that's reforming, so the rank and file members have a say rather than the unions

 

[Bartman09]

**** i'm sick to death about hearing about the election and the campaigning hasn't even started.

There are 2 things where no matter how much ARGUING happens there will NEVER be a winner, Religion and Politics because everyone has an opinion just like arseholes and everyone's is different.

NO MATTER who is in government we WILL get screwed over. Always have Always will. [rt][rt][rt]

Rudd and Abbott are both [jk]

 

[Bigcol]

Oh dear

 

[Bartman09]

Oh dear

What's that meant to mean Col.

 

[Poita]

[tsk][tsk][tsk]

Most of the above....

 

[Nascar12]

Sadly yet again not much of a choice
Abbott is just Abbott not much on offer
Rudd has ticked boxes for all the minorities - eg said sorry to the indigenous, Supports gay marriage, Heaps of women in the ministry (to offset overthrowing Gillard) etc........
Through default, is Palmer a real choice? He can run a business can he run a nation?

 

[TS-50]

Sadly yet again not much of a choice
Abbott is just Abbott not much on offer
Rudd has ticked boxes for all the minorities - eg said sorry to the indigenous, Supports gay marriage, Heaps of women in the ministry (to offset overthrowing Gillard) etc........
Through default, is Palmer a real choice? He can run a business can he run a nation?

Yeah maybe,. . . . or katter,. . . [crackup]

 

[Bigcol]

What's that meant to mean Col.

Glad you've got that off your chest.

But your right.
We are going to get screwed which ever way you put it.

Scariest thing is Abbott is just Newman on steroids and we've seen what the little liar has done in QLD

Labor is still Labor. Nothing will change until a complete overhaul of the party is done

Clive, well, he couldn't do any worse than the arseholes that inhabit the Liberal/National and Labor parties

 

[TS-50]

**** i'm sick to death about hearing about the election and the campaigning hasn't even started.

There are 2 things where no matter how much ARGUING happens there will NEVER be a winner, Religion and Politics because everyone has an opinion just like arseholes and everyone's is different.

NO MATTER who is in government we WILL get screwed over. Always have Always will. [rt]

Rudd and Abbott are both [jk]

While I agree with the assessment of the two PM's on offer,. . . . . . if you're not prepared to take a viewpoint about who, locally will serve you, your family, your suburb and your electorate the best,. . . .then you can't whinge when you do get a [jk] to represent you. And that's not about politics, it's about having someone who is meant to be representing you, actually knowing how you want to be represented, your views, and being accountable to you whilst in office. That's what's missing in our two party preferred system where they follow the will of the party not the wishes, desires and aspirations of the community

 

[TS-50]

Glad you've got that off your chest.

But your right.
We are going to get screwed which ever way you put it.

Scariest thing is Abbott is just Newman on steroids and we've seen what the little liar has done in QLD

Labor is still Labor. Nothing will change until a complete overhaul of the party is done

Clive, well, he couldn't do any worse than the arseholes that inhabit the Liberal/National and Labor parties

[iag]