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DJR Gives WESPOINT Marching Orders
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I've just read the article Spook & must say I'm blown away. How do you sack a sponsor???? Apparently going to HSVDT??
Not only that but Dick wasn't even at Surfers on the weekend. He was on his boat fishing with friends???????????????????????????????WTF?
Even some talk he has sold a major part of the team & talk just won't go away about Seto being punted in favour of Davison.
Not only that but Dick wasn't even at Surfers on the weekend. He was on his boat fishing with friends???????????????????????????????WTF?
Even some talk he has sold a major part of the team & talk just won't go away about Seto being punted in favour of Davison.
WTF!!!!! Indeed Rob18...Fishing with friends? Were any you guys invited?[:0]
Crikey! That is amazing news if true. Deep down I thought we were lucky to get a sponsor this year after being cosy with Shell for such a long time. I've faith that Dick and Chalks know what they're doing!
Crikey! That is amazing news if true. Deep down I thought we were lucky to get a sponsor this year after being cosy with Shell for such a long time. I've faith that Dick and Chalks know what they're doing!
Racin Jason
Active member
Why would anyone punt a sponsor?????? In particular one that is new to the sport??? Ross Brodie has been a long time supporter of DJR through his time at Shell and now Westpoint. I hope no bridges are being burnt there. And what happened to the 5 year deal with an option for another five that was rumoured???? Not making any sense to me!
If there is another big dollar sponsor, why wouldn't you run a couple more cars for Canto and young Davo??? HMS run 6 cars without any hassle! That would leave the Weatherman and Marvin junior to run in the Development series. This makes much more sense to me, however I do think think that Wollerman and co. are halfwits and can't do anything without srewing it up, so I could be wrong!!!!!
If there is another big dollar sponsor, why wouldn't you run a couple more cars for Canto and young Davo??? HMS run 6 cars without any hassle! That would leave the Weatherman and Marvin junior to run in the Development series. This makes much more sense to me, however I do think think that Wollerman and co. are halfwits and can't do anything without srewing it up, so I could be wrong!!!!!
Thetormentor
New member
Has anybody seen www.v8mortgages.com.au ??
Maybe a new sponsor ??
Maybe a new sponsor ??
very interesting indeed THETORMENTOR
dick has his signature all over the v8 mortgages thing, is that a new thing or has it been around for a while? and has dick just got on board?
and no NASCAR12 i wasnt invited for the fishing trip that is a let down, its also a let down/or a worry that dick didnt seem to mind not being trackside for the race or the team.
what is goin on ???????????
dick has his signature all over the v8 mortgages thing, is that a new thing or has it been around for a while? and has dick just got on board?
and no NASCAR12 i wasnt invited for the fishing trip that is a let down, its also a let down/or a worry that dick didnt seem to mind not being trackside for the race or the team.
what is goin on ???????????
very interesting indeed THETORMENTOR
dick has his signature all over the v8 mortgages thing, is that a new thing or has it been around for a while? and has dick just got on board?
and no NASCAR12 i wasnt invited for the fishing trip that is a let down, its also a let down/or a worry that dick didnt seem to mind not being trackside for the race or the team.
and yes HENRY i to would like to see the more money as such spent on the 2 current cars, we dont need more average cars poking around we need leading cars.
what is goin on ???????????
dick has his signature all over the v8 mortgages thing, is that a new thing or has it been around for a while? and has dick just got on board?
and no NASCAR12 i wasnt invited for the fishing trip that is a let down, its also a let down/or a worry that dick didnt seem to mind not being trackside for the race or the team.
and yes HENRY i to would like to see the more money as such spent on the 2 current cars, we dont need more average cars poking around we need leading cars.
what is goin on ???????????
V8 Mortgage centre is part of the Dick Johnson Group.
The Dick Johnson group was ASIC registered on 03/06/2005.
The V8 Mortage centre was registered on 27/04/2005.
So its a new company started in April.
I got all this information from : http://www.search.asic.gov.au/gns001.html
Would be pretty confident in saying that this new company is involved in some sort of "Business agreement" with Westpoint.As thay both share a number of "Lending Partners"
But its just my opinion.
Would not be surprised to see Westpoint repalced with V8 Mortage centre next year as well as another major sponsor.
Perhaps just perhaps Westpoint may have miscued in there "Demographic resarch"
Realising that the pecentage of V8 supercars supporters that want to invest in "Non residential investments" is not as large as that first thought.
But there is plenty of V8 supportwers that want a mortage.
Westpoint may also realise that the Dick Johnson name is far more effictive than Westpoint at the momement especially in the Qld market.
Once again my opinion and my opinion only.
RE
ick fishing with mates.
Perhaps they were on a business trip to highlight the fact that Dick does not all need to be at the show for the team to get media miles.
Or perhaps he was just talking non racing business.
Or perhaps he was catching up on fishing time.
Remember Kerry packer isn't allways at Channel 9.
The Dick Johnson group was ASIC registered on 03/06/2005.
The V8 Mortage centre was registered on 27/04/2005.
So its a new company started in April.
I got all this information from : http://www.search.asic.gov.au/gns001.html
Would be pretty confident in saying that this new company is involved in some sort of "Business agreement" with Westpoint.As thay both share a number of "Lending Partners"
But its just my opinion.
Would not be surprised to see Westpoint repalced with V8 Mortage centre next year as well as another major sponsor.
Perhaps just perhaps Westpoint may have miscued in there "Demographic resarch"
Realising that the pecentage of V8 supercars supporters that want to invest in "Non residential investments" is not as large as that first thought.
But there is plenty of V8 supportwers that want a mortage.
Westpoint may also realise that the Dick Johnson name is far more effictive than Westpoint at the momement especially in the Qld market.
Once again my opinion and my opinion only.
RE
ick fishing with mates.Perhaps they were on a business trip to highlight the fact that Dick does not all need to be at the show for the team to get media miles.
Or perhaps he was just talking non racing business.
Or perhaps he was catching up on fishing time.
Remember Kerry packer isn't allways at Channel 9.
Racin Jason
Active member
It is all starting to make sense now! Perhaps Westpoint were/are involved somewhere in the background??
Maybe Dick will be the next John Symond???
Maybe Dick will be the next John Symond???
My initial thoughts when I first saw this was that it must be Westpoint behind this new company & that they're using Dick as a a figure head. I can't imagine he would have the capital, market knowledge or even interest in going into this business by himself but I could be wrong.
While I still believe Dick Johnson is in "partnership" with Westpoint,it is not necessary.
Remember he has been involved in real estate for many years (Remember Tru Blu real estate with Alf Grant) and is very savvy when it comes to his business.
He has a long history in Real estate and property.
Regards Capital: Dont think that would be an issue, he would have taken notes from Mr Palmer.
Remember he has been involved in real estate for many years (Remember Tru Blu real estate with Alf Grant) and is very savvy when it comes to his business.
He has a long history in Real estate and property.
Regards Capital: Dont think that would be an issue, he would have taken notes from Mr Palmer.
It stated in AA and Mnews that its a major sponsor, no disrespect to the V8mortgages, but I dont think they are, at this stage are what you would call a major sponsor. We need to think outside the box, outside finance as it wouldnt be someone like Westpoint.
And to dump a pretty big sponsor for another, the new one must be impressive ???????
Bring it on
And to dump a pretty big sponsor for another, the new one must be impressive ???????
Bring it on
Westpoint has a lot of commerical partnerships and I would not be surprised if a company associated with Westpoint takes up a major role with DJR in association with V8 mortages and Westpoint.
Also remember its not impossible for Westpoint to also sponsor another team in a secondary role.
You would then have 4 cars with Westpoint sponsorship for the cost (or less of) of 2 and give Westpoint access to another database(s) therefor another group of potential customers.
Westpoint have had access to a lot of names and number since they joined forces with DJR. Its just a shame some of the "people" can appear, shall will say goal focused.
Also remember its not impossible for Westpoint to also sponsor another team in a secondary role.
You would then have 4 cars with Westpoint sponsorship for the cost (or less of) of 2 and give Westpoint access to another database(s) therefor another group of potential customers.
Westpoint have had access to a lot of names and number since they joined forces with DJR. Its just a shame some of the "people" can appear, shall will say goal focused.
Whoa?! What's all this?! I've been away for a few days & I drop in for a read & the world has gone mad! Sponsorship changes, new DJR companies, perhaps Dicky has sold part of the team?!! I hate the silly season rumours. But I'm with you NASCAR12, I have faith in Dick & Chalks. Although I would be deeply upset if Dick doesn't remain an active member, even if it is a minor part, of the team.
Seton Fanatic
New member
DJR's contract with Westpoint was a five year deal, with the option for another five years subsequent to that. All the noises suggested that DJR had a substantial budget increase, compared to Shell's contribution.
This talk of Dick asking Westpoint to leave, leaves me wondering. Is Dick that confident that he will attract sponsors and his business interests can also raise funds for the team? Or has Westpoint breached its contractual obligations to the DJR team? How does Glenn Seton fit into this scenario?
This is only my theory, but I believe that if true, this talk of the self-sufficient sponsor may be the reason for giving Glenn the flick. As Glenn stated in MN, he has fulfilled the requirements of the contract, meaning that there is very little or nothing DJR can do to legally dismiss him without a payout. Westpoint may be more a Seton-loyal sponsor than a DJR sponsor, which may mean that Westpoint may take their money and Seton over to another team.
Why would DJR be so keen to sack a driver with a year on his contract, who has fulfilled all the performance indicators that DJR asked of him? The new sponsor appears to be an excuse, trivial, as it is, to sign either Davison or Canto.
Does this mean that Seto will be driving a HSV Dealer Team Commodore in 2006? Remember, that they are the team RUMOURED to get the Toll franchise, thus leaving an extra seat and sponsor for 2006 nominally.
In news from the GTR forum, Seto has been RUMOURED to have been assessed for the SBR ride, on the orders of Ford Motorsport. And in a strange coincidence, SBR are looking for a NEW sponsor. Could it be, heaven forbid, that Glenn and Westpoint will be in #4 in 2006?
Let's hope all these rumours are sorted out soon, and that Glenn has a seat in 2006.
This talk of Dick asking Westpoint to leave, leaves me wondering. Is Dick that confident that he will attract sponsors and his business interests can also raise funds for the team? Or has Westpoint breached its contractual obligations to the DJR team? How does Glenn Seton fit into this scenario?
This is only my theory, but I believe that if true, this talk of the self-sufficient sponsor may be the reason for giving Glenn the flick. As Glenn stated in MN, he has fulfilled the requirements of the contract, meaning that there is very little or nothing DJR can do to legally dismiss him without a payout. Westpoint may be more a Seton-loyal sponsor than a DJR sponsor, which may mean that Westpoint may take their money and Seton over to another team.
Why would DJR be so keen to sack a driver with a year on his contract, who has fulfilled all the performance indicators that DJR asked of him? The new sponsor appears to be an excuse, trivial, as it is, to sign either Davison or Canto.
Does this mean that Seto will be driving a HSV Dealer Team Commodore in 2006? Remember, that they are the team RUMOURED to get the Toll franchise, thus leaving an extra seat and sponsor for 2006 nominally.
In news from the GTR forum, Seto has been RUMOURED to have been assessed for the SBR ride, on the orders of Ford Motorsport. And in a strange coincidence, SBR are looking for a NEW sponsor. Could it be, heaven forbid, that Glenn and Westpoint will be in #4 in 2006?
Let's hope all these rumours are sorted out soon, and that Glenn has a seat in 2006.
I'm sick to f&cken death of all these DJR/Westpoint/Seto rumours... All I can say, if Seto gets shaffied & misses out on a drive for 2006 I'm going to be one very very very very p!ssed off person [}]
!!! DO THE RIGHT THING DICK !!!!
If your going to let him go, do it now so he can still get a drive for next year.. Don't do a 888 on Max Wilson from last year
]!!! DO THE RIGHT THING DICK !!!!
If your going to let him go, do it now so he can still get a drive for next year.. Don't do a 888 on Max Wilson from last year
Here here Joe. I will be one very unhappy camper over here if a man with that much talent is overlooked. I am sick and tired of people suggesting he is old (at 40 !! - please) and therefor ready to give it away. John Bowe is over 50 and Brad Jones is over 40.
I still don't believe that Seto is moving and he would not be that stupid to move to a Holden - he has too much to lose (and he would lose fans). I support the man, but there is a fine line between fantasy and reality. I also don't think he would play second fiddle to Rusty either, but if it means keeping him in blue, then fine. SBR make their announcements Monday, so we will all know soon enough.
I am with Joe - I'm also sick to death of all these DJR/Westpoint/Seto rumours. The last time I was on the Westpoint site, Glenn was pretty confident about staying with DJR and everyone was happy.
Maybe Steven is moving and taking Westpoint to HSV, maybe Skaife really is talented and good looking; so many rumours, so much bulls**t.
I still don't believe that Seto is moving and he would not be that stupid to move to a Holden - he has too much to lose (and he would lose fans). I support the man, but there is a fine line between fantasy and reality. I also don't think he would play second fiddle to Rusty either, but if it means keeping him in blue, then fine. SBR make their announcements Monday, so we will all know soon enough.
I am with Joe - I'm also sick to death of all these DJR/Westpoint/Seto rumours. The last time I was on the Westpoint site, Glenn was pretty confident about staying with DJR and everyone was happy.
Maybe Steven is moving and taking Westpoint to HSV, maybe Skaife really is talented and good looking; so many rumours, so much bulls**t.