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Henry

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I was rummaging in the "library" here at Swamp Manor this morning, and spent a moment looking over some of "the Grest Race" editions on the shelf... got me thinking:

Which ATCC/Supercar season was your favourite?

For mine: 1986. There have been much better years to be a Ford/DJR supporter, but the early Gp.A years were fantastic. I'm not old enough to have seen Improved Production, or to remember the 70's vividly... while I will always love the Group C cars, and have by-and-large cherished the V8SC era, 1986 had heaps to offer...

While DJ was stuck in his second year with the venerable, but gorgeous Mustang, with no significant homologation concessions for the season. We had the debut of the Skyline RB20's. Glenn Seton made his sensational debut for the Peter Jackson Nissan squad. Graeme Crosby crossed the Tasman on four wheels and made a sensational ATCC debut in a Perkins-built Commodore, and added some more RaceCam entertainment to the Channel 7 telecasts. Australian drivers took Australian cars into the heart of Group A - Europe - and acquitted themselves more than well... hell, Allan Grice built himself an international career on the shoulders of his efforts in an unsponsored Commodore! They took the King's Cup at the Spa 24 hours - 3 Commodores started, three finished.

We had a first-time champ in Robbie Francevic, and a first for the Swedish Valiant: we saw John Bowe make his touring car debut, in his second ADC-winning year. Allan Moffat made a come-back after a year out of the game, with the Mobil Holden Dealer Team. Jim Richards gave the JPS BMW 635CSi - arguably the prettiest of all touring cars - its last year in his hands before the switch to he M3 in 1987. George Fury, Talmalmo Farmer, bus driver and multiple Australian Rayy Champion, went as close as he would ever come to winning the ATCC.

Mark Skaife first appeared at Bathurst - albeit briefly, as the car he was to co-drive was written off in Thursday practice and did not compete. Grice won Bathurst for the first time. John French made his last race appearance at he Big Hill. Larry Perkins debuted his eponymous touring car team, with Enzed sponsorship, and a very good VK Commodore. Mad Andy Miedecke made his maiden Bathurst appearance.

And true tragedy first touched the Great Race, with the death of ARDC stalwart and long-time promotor of young talent, Mike Burgmann.

Like I said earlier, as a Ford and DJR supporter, there were better years... but for variety - in cars, drivers and events - and good hard racing, 1986 was a corker.
 

Nascar12

New member
Did all that happen just in '86...that will be hard to top. Good memories there.
For me, any year that Ch7 and Mike Raymond, (hence my signature), did the coverage and of course Dick's in car comments, made for a special era in Australian Motorsport.

20 years ago.....I seriously wonder that in 20 years time will people have similar fond memories of the racing to today compared to memories of 1986.

BTW, I don't recall Ray Champion. Who was he and what did he drive?
 

Racin Jason

Active member
Hard to argue with that but I really enjoyed 1989, I know DJ and the Sierra's were very dominant but I loved it! But from a competitive viewpoint I would agree with '86!
 

J.C.

New member
1985 the first year of group A.
Channel 7 had no football coverage that year(It went to 10)
3 hours on Sundays of Group A FF and supporting cat.
Excellent fillers and excellent racing.

Calder 85 the best ATCC race in a long time....and few better since
Lakeside 85.....Dick trying to hang on.
Amaroo 85......Ditto
Bathurst 85.....Oh that dam oil cooler
AGP 85.......What a win.
 

Henry

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quote:Originally posted by nascar12

BTW, I don't recall Ray Champion. Who was he and what did he drive?
er, that might've been RALLY champion, or it would've been had I not fallen asleep at the keys... :D
 

Nascar12

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quote:Originally posted by Henry

quote:Originally posted by nascar12

BTW, I don't recall Ray Champion. Who was he and what did he drive?
er, that might've been RALLY champion, or it would've been had I not fallen asleep at the keys... :D

And if I were a little more alert I would have picked up on that;)
 

Mitchell

Retired Admin
Im young (which means you're old :D) so Marcos' first title in 2003 is my favourite, without question.. i can only very vaguely remember Glenn's win in the late 90's.. and im still waiting for a Bathurst win, so it was my first real taste of glory as a Ford man.

That day at Eastern Creek, and DJR's win at the QLD 500 a few years before are the two moments that stand out in my head... Rat dancing around in the rain, with that crazy naked fat man running on to the sand trap..
 

Nascar12

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quote:Originally posted by Mitchell

Im young (which means you're old :D) so Marcos' first title in 2003 is my favourite, without question.. i can only very vaguely remember Glenn's win in the late 90's.. and im still waiting for a Bathurst win, so it was my first real taste of glory as a Ford man.

That day at Eastern Creek, and DJR's win at the QLD 500 a few years before are the two moments that stand out in my head... Rat dancing around in the rain, with that crazy naked fat man running on to the sand trap..

Very impressed young man, to have faith in the "Oval" but not have lived through the glory years.
:)
 

Henry

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Another good AMC out this week, with a feature on Murray Carter... regardless of your age, if you're a Ford fan, there are plenty of grey years between the glories...
 

Rob 18

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To show how one eyed I really am, I would list 88 & 89 as my favourite seasons. DJR totally dominant & just about untouchable..

I would probably add 1995 to that list when Bowey in the EF was just so much faster than everyone else & one could just imagine how much more dominant DJR could have been in 95 if they were on Bridgestones instead of the 'left over' Dunlop's after the Kobe disaster.

From a purist's point of view though, I would have to list 84 to everyone else's list from the point of view that there were 7 rounds of the ATCC which were won by 6 different drivers (Brock 2, & 1 each to Johnson, Grice, Moffat, Morris & Fury) & 4 different brands of car (Holden, Ford, Mazda & Nissan). Add to that with the competitiveness of Richard's BMW, Masterton's XE & Cullen's K Mart Commodore made for a very good year in 1984..
 

Racin Jason

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'84 was an excellent season, but I agree that 1995 has got to be up there as well. At the championship round at Bathurst in april the DJR cars were untouchable until Dick had the rear wing break at the chase! Iirc Bo Seton complained at the time that he had found an extra 15hp prior to that round and he thought he was doing good until "those two yellow pricks of things disappeared into the distance". JB was really on top of his game too in '95.
 

Mitchell

Retired Admin
1995 is the one 'Motor Racing Year' i own. Ive read it cover to cover. so even though i cant remember it, it'd probably be up there with my favourites :D
 

Joe5619

New member
I liked 1993 & 1997 (where you really excepting me to say anything else?)!! Althought I did enjoy 1995 as well.
 

bjr22n

New member
I was born in the glory years. 1984.
1989, even though i can't remember it, it was the year i turned into a DJR fan, after being shown the light thanks to DJ (after brocky snobbed me) and being one of the most successful years for DJR.

1995, I would have to say, only because i can sort of remember it... but not really, This was the year that John Bowe was the bench mark.
 

Doug

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Geez hard ask henry, but from a spectators point of view I would say 1983 and the sight of DJ in the Blue XE screaming onto the front straight at Adelaide Raceway with absolutely bags of oversteer - think he even whacked the wall a couple of times - then to see that same "pig" of a car get transformed into the mighty Green Machine - only to have it all tumble down at Bathurst. However, the legend jumped into his "old" XD at Surfers for the enduro and was blitzing them I believe until overheating ruined the day - Dick was nothing if not resilient!!
 

Rob 18

New member
He was definately a cut above wasn't he Doug, & was still very quick in Grants XD to IIRC until drama's set in.
 

Henry

New member
quote:Originally posted by Rob 18

He was definately a cut above wasn't he Doug, & was still very quick in Grants XD to IIRC until drama's set in.
the 1984 Australian Motor Racing Yearbook had a comprehensive feature on the Greens-Tuf XE, celebrating its place as the last Group C ATCC-winning car: Dick said at the time that the main difference between the XD and the XE was in the commitment it rewarded: the XE needed much more commitment from the wheelman to reap the increased pace. If one drove it the same as the XD, it was about the same, pace-wise. The inference I read from that was that the XD was far from a spent package (especially as it took the XE guys along time to come to grips with the new rear end), although heavier, and IIRC, restricted to the dual-plane manifolding etc (but DJR had some very trick stuff there anyway).

Dick really knew where the bodies were buried with the Cleveland-powered Blackwood cars: in 1980, at the Surfers enduro, he re-engined and raced the King George Tavern car (the very car which ended the 1981 JH100 prematurely), and vanished into the middle distance until it overheated... and the Tru-Blu XD built for 1981 was always a very good unit.
 

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