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Great race was nice to see some action involving tander getting shafted at every possible moment. He was in today?s paper crying about the race, oh well boo who. Ford 1, 2, 3 again this is great.
Steve should have a great race today seeing he saved the fast soft tyres. Triple 8 certainly have such a hold on the races so far. I think it?s going to take a triple 8 built car to beat them. Come on Steve.
Bad luck with Courtney's car hopefully they have fixed the problem it had yesterday and he can qualify well this morning.
Steve should have a great race today seeing he saved the fast soft tyres. Triple 8 certainly have such a hold on the races so far. I think it?s going to take a triple 8 built car to beat them. Come on Steve.
Bad luck with Courtney's car hopefully they have fixed the problem it had yesterday and he can qualify well this morning.
ROB17
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Courtney 10th and Johnson 18th for Sundays race. Yes Stevie didn't use his sprint tyres yesterday nor did Rick Kelly and Paul Dumbrell. They are both well and truly into the Top 10.
1 1 TeamVodafone Jamie Whincup Ford Falcon FG 5000 8 7 1:23.1687*
2 5 Ford Performance Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon FG 5000 11 10 1:23.4086 0:00.2399
3 888 TeamVodafone Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon FG 5000 10 9 1:23.4127 0:00.2440
4 2 Toll Holden Racing Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VE 5000 9 9 1:23.4277 0:00.2590
5 10 Team Autobarn Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 11 1:23.7023 0:00.5336
6 111 Wilson Security Racing Fabian Coulthard Ford Falcon FG 5000 10 9 1:23.7118 0:00.5431
7 33 Garry Rogers Motorsport Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 10 1:23.8328 0:00.6641
8 15 Jack Daniels Racing Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VE 5000 11 10 1:23.8455 0:00.6768
9 22 Toll Holden Racing Team Will Davison Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 9 1:23.8694 0:00.7007
10 18 Jim Beam Racing James Courtney Ford Falcon FG 5000 12 11 1:23.9809 0:00.8122
11 9 SP Tools Racing Shane Van Gisbergen Ford Falcon FG 5000 13 13 1:23.9873 0:00.8186
12 3 Sprint Gas Racing Jason Bargwanna Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 12 1:23.9916 0:00.8229
13 34 Garry Rogers Motorsport Michael Caruso Holden Commodore VE 5000 11 10 1:24.0331 0:00.8644
14 6 Ford Performance Racing Steven Richards Ford Falcon FG 5000 12 11 1:24.0730 0:00.9043
15 24 Bundaberg Red Racing Team David Reynolds Holden Commodore VE 5000 11 8 1:24.0970 0:00.9283
16 8 Team BOC Jason Richards Holden Commodore VE 5000 13 10 1:24.1145 0:00.9458
17 7 Jack Daniel's Racing Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 10 1:24.1479 0:00.9792
18 17 Jim Beam Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon FG 5000 11 8 1:24.1565 0:00.9878
19 14 WOW Racing Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 9 1:24.1752 0:01.0065
20 51 Sprint Gas Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 10 1:24.2131 0:01.0444
21 39 Supercheap Auto Racing Russell Ingall Holden Commodore VE 5000 11 9 1:24.2708 0:01.1021
22 25 Fujitsu Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BF 5000 11 9 1:24.2764 0:01.1077
23 77 Team Intaracing Marcus Marshall Ford Falcon BF 5000 10 10 1:24.3286 0:01.1599
24 4 Irwin Racing Alex Davison Ford Falcon FG 5000 12 10 1:24.4635 0:01.2948
25 11 Dodo Racing Team Jack Perkins Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 4 1:24.5052 0:01.3365
26 55 The Bottle-O Racing Team Tony D'Alberto Holden Commodore VE 5000 11 11 1:24.5448 0:01.3761
27 67 Supercheap Auto Racing Tim Slade Holden Commodore VE 5000 13 6 1:24.5607 0:01.3920
28 333 Wilson Security Racing Michael Patrizi Ford Falcon BF 5000 11 10 1:24.6516 0:01.4829
29 16 Hi-Tec Oils Racing Dale Wood Holden Commodore VE 5000 13 9 1:24.8786 0:01.7099
30 021 Triple F Racing Dean Fiore Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 9 1:25.1948 0:02.0261
A very interesting afternoon of racing ahead today!
1 1 TeamVodafone Jamie Whincup Ford Falcon FG 5000 8 7 1:23.1687*
2 5 Ford Performance Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon FG 5000 11 10 1:23.4086 0:00.2399
3 888 TeamVodafone Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon FG 5000 10 9 1:23.4127 0:00.2440
4 2 Toll Holden Racing Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VE 5000 9 9 1:23.4277 0:00.2590
5 10 Team Autobarn Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 11 1:23.7023 0:00.5336
6 111 Wilson Security Racing Fabian Coulthard Ford Falcon FG 5000 10 9 1:23.7118 0:00.5431
7 33 Garry Rogers Motorsport Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 10 1:23.8328 0:00.6641
8 15 Jack Daniels Racing Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VE 5000 11 10 1:23.8455 0:00.6768
9 22 Toll Holden Racing Team Will Davison Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 9 1:23.8694 0:00.7007
10 18 Jim Beam Racing James Courtney Ford Falcon FG 5000 12 11 1:23.9809 0:00.8122
11 9 SP Tools Racing Shane Van Gisbergen Ford Falcon FG 5000 13 13 1:23.9873 0:00.8186
12 3 Sprint Gas Racing Jason Bargwanna Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 12 1:23.9916 0:00.8229
13 34 Garry Rogers Motorsport Michael Caruso Holden Commodore VE 5000 11 10 1:24.0331 0:00.8644
14 6 Ford Performance Racing Steven Richards Ford Falcon FG 5000 12 11 1:24.0730 0:00.9043
15 24 Bundaberg Red Racing Team David Reynolds Holden Commodore VE 5000 11 8 1:24.0970 0:00.9283
16 8 Team BOC Jason Richards Holden Commodore VE 5000 13 10 1:24.1145 0:00.9458
17 7 Jack Daniel's Racing Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 10 1:24.1479 0:00.9792
18 17 Jim Beam Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon FG 5000 11 8 1:24.1565 0:00.9878
19 14 WOW Racing Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 9 1:24.1752 0:01.0065
20 51 Sprint Gas Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 10 1:24.2131 0:01.0444
21 39 Supercheap Auto Racing Russell Ingall Holden Commodore VE 5000 11 9 1:24.2708 0:01.1021
22 25 Fujitsu Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BF 5000 11 9 1:24.2764 0:01.1077
23 77 Team Intaracing Marcus Marshall Ford Falcon BF 5000 10 10 1:24.3286 0:01.1599
24 4 Irwin Racing Alex Davison Ford Falcon FG 5000 12 10 1:24.4635 0:01.2948
25 11 Dodo Racing Team Jack Perkins Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 4 1:24.5052 0:01.3365
26 55 The Bottle-O Racing Team Tony D'Alberto Holden Commodore VE 5000 11 11 1:24.5448 0:01.3761
27 67 Supercheap Auto Racing Tim Slade Holden Commodore VE 5000 13 6 1:24.5607 0:01.3920
28 333 Wilson Security Racing Michael Patrizi Ford Falcon BF 5000 11 10 1:24.6516 0:01.4829
29 16 Hi-Tec Oils Racing Dale Wood Holden Commodore VE 5000 13 9 1:24.8786 0:01.7099
30 021 Triple F Racing Dean Fiore Holden Commodore VE 5000 12 9 1:25.1948 0:02.0261
A very interesting afternoon of racing ahead today!
Timmy
New member
How the hell did tander get off touching Courtney in the pits without a black flag or something being said? I know the triple 8 major stuff up was in a way related but come on the pits are a major no no. Also that bonnet was not secure I don?t care what old Campbell little thinks, again if that were another driver black flag straight away. HRT are pulling someone?s strings.
That better, on another note great to see ford at the front again. Courtney did well all day till his tyres dropped off right at the end. He has a leased bagged some good points. Poor old Steve really lost out when his fast rubber ran out. However good signs for the next round a Tassie which will be great, it?s going to be bloody cold which is going to mix things up again.
That better, on another note great to see ford at the front again. Courtney did well all day till his tyres dropped off right at the end. He has a leased bagged some good points. Poor old Steve really lost out when his fast rubber ran out. However good signs for the next round a Tassie which will be great, it?s going to be bloody cold which is going to mix things up again.
DJR-FAN
New member
Does anyone else have a sore throat from screaming PIT PIT PIT at the TV!
The team had a great opportunity to move Steve into 2nd in the Championship today and dropped the ball.
They had made the gain they were looking for with the soft tyre when Steve moved from 18th to 5th, Holdsworth was parked, and he had track position over Dill. To top it off, the stuff up in the 888 garage saw Whincup slip way down the order which would have allowed us to claw back some points on the leader. 13 positions. How much more gain were they hoping for? That?s without being able to pass Whincup and Winterbottom in the pits to effectively move into 3rd after the stops. I don?t believe that Steve had the pace today to stay with the lead, but all he had to do was stay a couple of spots in front of Dill to move into 2nd for the Championship.
I know it must be difficult to make the right decision in the heat of the moment, but to me it was an obvious and basic calculation. A pit stop takes about 55sec, Steve had about 10 - 12 laps left in his tyres, so unless your going to get about a 5sec/lap gain by staying out, you pit and say thanks for the 13 positions. I?m sure I wasn?t the only one that screamed PIT the second they saw the images of Holdsworth parked.
I love my team, but sorry, today you dropped the ball.[hb]
Congrats to James on a good race and to Steve for moving into 3rd in the Championship.
The team had a great opportunity to move Steve into 2nd in the Championship today and dropped the ball.
They had made the gain they were looking for with the soft tyre when Steve moved from 18th to 5th, Holdsworth was parked, and he had track position over Dill. To top it off, the stuff up in the 888 garage saw Whincup slip way down the order which would have allowed us to claw back some points on the leader. 13 positions. How much more gain were they hoping for? That?s without being able to pass Whincup and Winterbottom in the pits to effectively move into 3rd after the stops. I don?t believe that Steve had the pace today to stay with the lead, but all he had to do was stay a couple of spots in front of Dill to move into 2nd for the Championship.
I know it must be difficult to make the right decision in the heat of the moment, but to me it was an obvious and basic calculation. A pit stop takes about 55sec, Steve had about 10 - 12 laps left in his tyres, so unless your going to get about a 5sec/lap gain by staying out, you pit and say thanks for the 13 positions. I?m sure I wasn?t the only one that screamed PIT the second they saw the images of Holdsworth parked.
I love my team, but sorry, today you dropped the ball.[hb]
Congrats to James on a good race and to Steve for moving into 3rd in the Championship.
Steve got past 14 cars on the sticky rubber, and that's why he ran out of stick so quickly, there weren't too many blue flags out there for the quicker car and some of them were blocking in a big way.
I'm also amazed that once again we see HRT not getting a penalty, when Courtney slowed to go by Whincup in the pits, Tander just went out beside him instead of joining the que and virtually forced him to go behind to get out of the pit lane.
several other pit lane incidents went by too, Frosty bumping one of Lowndes tyres out of the way, one of Frosty's blokes walking out in front of Whincup to slow him getting into the pit area,
and don't even get me started on yesterdays events, Tander drove like a complete idiot and there was only one worse driver out there the whole weekend and that was jack Perkins, what a fool!
I'm also amazed that once again we see HRT not getting a penalty, when Courtney slowed to go by Whincup in the pits, Tander just went out beside him instead of joining the que and virtually forced him to go behind to get out of the pit lane.
several other pit lane incidents went by too, Frosty bumping one of Lowndes tyres out of the way, one of Frosty's blokes walking out in front of Whincup to slow him getting into the pit area,
and don't even get me started on yesterdays events, Tander drove like a complete idiot and there was only one worse driver out there the whole weekend and that was jack Perkins, what a fool!